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I see Molnar got the offset on the rods correct so they are centered on the wrist pin....good deal.
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BTW, did you run the rear oiler on the other setup that fried the cam bearings?  I would have thought that you might not want to rob that oil flow this time around in order to get more oil to the cam.  With a properly set up oiling systems the band aid rear oiler line is not needed.  You can alway pull it out now and put pipe plugs in the holes and add it later if you really feel you want it back in there down the road.
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Yes, the other 401 has the same valley oil line. It ran for 8 years before it started having problems. I don't think the valley line was the cause.

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What compression are the Wisecos
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Those are the -27cc dish wiseco pistons which have a 1.50 compression height.  With stock 50.6cc heads they are 10.15 and with 58cc heads they are 9.46.
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Originally posted by Rebel Machine Rebel Machine wrote:

Yes, the other 401 has the same valley oil line. It ran for 8 years before it started having problems. I don't think the valley line was the cause.

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Did you check the old copper line for a crack?  One of the issues with that setup is that over time the copper line cracks and piddles oil in the valley area thus reducing your oil pressure particularly when hot.
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I thought about removing the line and plugging the holes the last time around. After examining the copper line, I didn't find any faults with it so I re-installed it. Had it on the engine stand with the intake off and spun the oil pump with a drill. There were no leaks in the copper line. I could see the lifters bleeding oil up into the valley but no issue with the copper line. I wish I could have run the same test with the block at operating temperature.

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One of the challenges with a crack in the line is it may not show any visible leakage when cold due to thick oil and that the copper may not yet be expanded by the heat.  Last one I did I had a custom thick wall teflon hydraulic line made up.  The guy at the hydraulic store said it was something like 10X more durable than a copper line.

Edited by amx39068 - Nov/30/2013 at 5:07pm
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Originally posted by ARIZONAAMX ARIZONAAMX wrote:

What compression are the Wisecos


The Wiseco number is on the piston. I believe they also have a non-dished piston.

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