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    Posted: Jan/05/2011 at 1:17pm

I found an old perfectly good AMC Bellhousing which I think came off one of my donor 63-66 Classic 770 cars I had in the past.  It was in one of my boxes of parts, but can't remember what rig it came from, if any!!  

The part is an aluminum bell for a manual transmission with part number inside next to the clutch lever ball socket numbered 3235824 (3236824 I can't tell).  Does anyone have part # access to ID the engine, car and transmission paring.  I tried fitting up a BW T-86OD and the bell's transmission holes have a much wider spread than that tranny.  The bell has 4 holes for mounting the transmission with 6 1/2" vertical spacing on the right and left sides; 6 1/2" horizontal spacing on the bottom two holes; and 7 7/8" horizontal on the top two holes.  It looks like it might accomodate a larger face like a T-10. 
 
I would post a picture of it, but guess I can't do that until I get a few more forum postings.  Any leads would be appreciated, thanks.
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Pretty sure I know what you got, I will compare some numbers on the bells I have and let you know. SH
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The number 3235824 bell you have is from a 84-86 Jeep used with an SR-4 4speed. If you look across from the number you listed, near where the starter fits, it will have a circle with a year in it, like say 84.  It has been used by folks for the conversion to the AMC used 5 speed like in a 83 spirit. It can also be used to fit a SR-4 4speed in a v-8 or 6cyl 76-83. The fork hole is larger than those cars originally used, but it will work and function fine. SH
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Yes thank you.  I received several emails from AMC folks that suggested it might be from an AMC Jeep.  I looked up Jeep Bell configurations, sure enough it showed a picture of mine for a Wagonner 327.  The article mentioned that it should fit the AMC 327, but cannot fit up a T-10 standard, Ford or GM unit to it,  it had to be a Jeep or AMC T-10 as the bolt pattern is proprietary to AMC.  So I guess that my Bellhousing might work for the 4 and 5 speed units you mentioned  and allow some Ramblers to have a 4 or 5 speed in their rides.  It would save fuel and give a sweet ride to those old  Ramblers!
 
Thanks for the update and your research, it is for sale if anyone wants to use it, send me a PM to work out the details.
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Since my last note, inputs and leads have let me positively ID'd the bellhousing.  It isn't so good news for you 287/327 V8 folks.  It is a AMC/Jeep/Javelin/AMX bell that fits AMC Mopar 304, 360 and 401 V-8 and 258 I-6 engines.  Unless the 287/327 V-8 engines have the same engine bolt patterns as those AMC/Mopar engines beyond 1966 it won't fit the 287/327 V8s.  Only AMC/Jeep T-10 will fit this bell as well as other listed 4 and 5 speed transmissions.  The exact bellhousing I have is now being sold on eBay item 190417624847 for those AMC/Jeep engines. You might want to take a look to verify the engine bolt patterns to see the exact duplicate of mine.   I appreciate all the PMs, personal research, and leads you all provided to help me ID this bell, Thanks again.
 
Now that it has been ID'd if anyone needs a bell for the 1966 and later Mopar AMC/Jeep engines it sounds like this is the one to adapt some 4 and 5 speed trannys listed for the AMC/Jeep vehicles.  Just shoot me a PM and we can work out the details.

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Originally posted by ramblingon ramblingon wrote:

It is a AMC/Jeep/Javelin/AMX bell that fits AMC Mopar 304, 360 and 401 V-8 and 258 I-6 engines.




I'd really leave the Mopar outta this.
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Originally posted by poormansMACHINE poormansMACHINE wrote:

Originally posted by ramblingon ramblingon wrote:

It is a AMC/Jeep/Javelin/AMX bell that fits AMC Mopar 304, 360 and 401 V-8 and 258 I-6 engines.




I'd really leave the Mopar outta this.
 
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Originally posted by 67RogueX-Code 67RogueX-Code wrote:

Originally posted by poormansMACHINE poormansMACHINE wrote:

Originally posted by ramblingon ramblingon wrote:

It is a AMC/Jeep/Javelin/AMX bell that fits AMC Mopar 304, 360 and 401 V-8 and 258 I-6 engines.




I'd really leave the Mopar outta this.
 
...thanks PMM, you must have heard my teeth grating together too... Wink

Couldn't hear it over mine.LOL
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Ok, OK, Ok for the sake of the forum.........disregard Mopar!!!!  Will AMC/Jeep be allowed?  I just got carried away at finding the ID of this bell and forgot my place in the AMC world and for which it stands!!  Sorry 'bout that!!!! 
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AMC/Jeep isn't the problem. 304 isn't a Mopar engine and the 360 Mopar shares nothing but displacement and spark plugs with the AMC.
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