The AMC Forum : Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin http://theamcforum.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The AMC Forum : HVAC : Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin Mon, 20 May 2013 01:54:15 +0000 Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:34:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.03 360 theamcforum.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=32719 The AMC Forum http://theamcforum.com/forum/http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/skin_images_amc/forumheader.png http://theamcforum.com/forum/ Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : I am putting ac in my 73 matador... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post317528.html#317528 Author: FASTNASH
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Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 10:34am

I am putting ac in my 73 matador and been going to swap meets and buy used aftermarket parts and just need hose kit now and don't have to much in it and street rodders always change there cars around, thats how found the parts.]]> Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:34:33 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post317528.html#317528 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : I have a cobbled together system... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post317509.html#317509 Author: farna
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Posted: Nov/27/2011 at 9:46am

I have a cobbled together system -- original 63 evaporator and expansion valve under the hood, early 00's Chrysler LS crossflow condenser, late 80s Jeep Sanden compressor. Had to have hoses made with flares on one end and o-rings on the other, but everything works great. I charged it with EnviroSafe. No problems cooling, blows out ice cubes! At least it does for a few weeks. Seal in the compressor is leaking, have to replace it! It's from an 88 Jeep, so I won't complain. Have a used 99 Jeep compressor, will probably try that one.
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 7:27pm

Before you buy a kit, measure the area available in the car for the condenser. It has been my experience that a generic kit does not always come with the largest condenser that will fit in the car. My Rogues have condensers that are 4 inches wider than the ones that the kits would have included had I not requested larger units. Larger condenser means more heat is given up, resulting in colder air. ]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:27:56 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299689.html#299689 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : I think the best system depends... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299660.html#299660 Author: ZCODE
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 4:32pm

I think the best system depends on where you are starting from. If you have a non-AC system, underdash or using a vintage air gen II makes the most obvious choice. If you have factory air you look at the cost. I have a rock through my condensor so I am using an aluminum parallel flow condenser designed for R-134a. About 90 bucks from Nostalgic Air Parts. 50 bucks for a accumulator / drier and binary switch. (Jeep Liberty setup from Jeepair.com) You can get an inline switch port for $7 and a trinary switch if you want it to control an electric fan and cycle your compressor.  I am just wiring the compressor through the switch to turn it off (cycle it off if pressure is to high or low). I picked up a chromed (20 horsepower gain) sanden compressor from a car show vendor for 125 dollars.  I am using a $100 cut to fit line kit with R134a ports. I am having them crimped at a local shop. ACDelco orifice tube for 2 bucks.
I was going to need a rebuilt compressor, POA, expansion valve, new drier, probably new hoses, new oem condensor and tools and fluid to flush out R12 based oil and a 134a conversion kit. I figured I saved a few hundred bucks. If you have a good working AC system and want to convert from R12, I would just keep the expansion valve/ drier setup.
 
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 2:26pm

Expansion would give no issue, but a replacement for 134 is easily available and gives best cooling. ]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:26:08 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299635.html#299635 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : Underdash is easier since... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299633.html#299633 Author: ZCODE
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 2:12pm

Underdash is easier since the Classic Air and Vintage Air have everything built in, but I have factory air with 3 dash vents and defrost. Underdash does a great job keeping my right knee cold. The problem with the expansion valve is that I am converting to R134a which is at a higher pressure and the expansion valve needs to be adjusted. It can be done, but mine was over 40 years old and in rough shape. I am cycling the compressor by using an accumulator with a pressure switch port. ]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 14:12:27 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299633.html#299633 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : I would prefer an expansion valve... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299622.html#299622 Author: tsanchez
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 1:22pm

I would prefer an expansion valve as using an orifice you will have to cycle your compressor to maintain low side pressure. Old school under dash is easy. ]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:22:51 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299622.html#299622 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : ZCODE wrote: I have a non-AMC... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299621.html#299621 Author: Schwalls
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 1:17pm

Originally posted by ZCODE ZCODE wrote:



I have a non-AMC project that I am converting to a "modern"  orifice tube setup.  It allow me to use the AC setup with R134a.  Do you have the front and center 327 AC York bracket? It is costing me about $500. Yet looks pretty stock.  I took out the drier from the high side and used a orifice tube and put an accumulator on the low side.


ZCODE - I'd be interested in seeing pics and a parts list of what you are doing. I am getting started converting my car to AC. I have a factory AC dash unit that i will be using. I have the factory evaporator and dash unit but nothing else. I have a Sanden compressor and parallell flow condensor but everything else I still need to get.

Scott]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:17:36 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299621.html#299621 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : I have a non-AMC project that... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299618.html#299618 Author: ZCODE
Subject: 32719
Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 1:09pm

I have a non-AMC project that I am converting to a "modern"  orifice tube setup.  It allow me to use the AC setup with R134a.  Do you have the front and center 327 AC York bracket? It is costing me about $500. Yet looks pretty stock.  I took out the drier from the high side and used a orifice tube and put an accumulator on the low side. ]]> Fri, 16 Sep 2011 13:09:36 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299618.html#299618 Aftermarket AC Into a Marlin : Should be straight forward. Only... http://theamcforum.com/forum/aftermarket-ac-into-a-marlin_topic32719_post299614.html#299614 Author: gtoman_us
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Posted: Sep/16/2011 at 12:55pm

Should be straight forward.  Only need the compressor mount bracket and I think Kennedy has a modern Sanden compressor and bracket you will need to locate the idler pulley set set up.  Other than that you should be able to get the rest from Classic Air underdash unit should give you everything you need. 

You might need a 55 amp alternator I know my Ambo is factory AC and has the larger unit
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