The AMC Forum : 232 parts questions http://theamcforum.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The AMC Forum : 6 Cylinder Engine Repair and Modifications : 232 parts questions Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:17:18 +0000 Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:57:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.03 360 theamcforum.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=1705 The AMC Forum http://theamcforum.com/forum/http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/skin_images_amc/forumheader.png http://theamcforum.com/forum/ 232 parts questions : There were some external changes... http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13784.html#13784 Author: KermitDRambler
Subject: 1705
Posted: Nov/11/2007 at 8:57am

There were some external changes for 1975 that changed things up a bit but there are also changes made in 1968 that make things more of a pain.

First, you can use the fuel pump but you basically give up your vacuum wipers without the booster pump. You can buy pumps from the AMC vendors for about $90 or you can go to http://www.then-now.com and have them rebuild yours or buy a kit to rebuild it yourself. Inline Tube (http://www.inlinetube.com) will have the manifold to booster pump hardline and if you have a 1bbl carb, they also have the vacuum advance and fuel lines as well.

The water pump you want fits 1964-67 (I got mine from http://www.kanter.com) except 1965 American. You can also use a 68-74 pump (which is the one a parts store will list as fitting) but the nipple for the heater hose is too big (you want a 5/8" nipple). There is a huge difference is cost between the correct pump and the later one. You can get a later one for about $40 but Kanter changes about $90. One way to handle the nipple difference is to use a 1/2" to 3/8" copper pipe reducer to go from 3/4" to 5/8" heater hose.
 
There are two different six cylinder starters (those also changed after 1974, that's when they moved to the passenger side). A Delco and a Prestolite. My TSMs doen't call out any application differences.
 
Matt
]]> Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:57:10 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13784.html#13784 232 parts questions : Doug, you can use a 258 head.... http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13669.html#13669 Author: farna
Subject: 1705
Posted: Nov/10/2007 at 2:12am

Doug, you can use a 258 head. The caveat is you'll have to have custom length hollow pushrods. There may be a stock length that will fit, but you'll need to figure out what the length should be. Your 65 232 will have shaft rocker arms which are 1.5:1 ratio. A later model 258 head has stud mount rockers with 1.6:1 ratio rockers. So you'll get a little more lift from the stock cam (not a problem!).  The problem is the deck height of the 232 was raised in 1971 to allow for the longer stroke 258. All 71 and later 232 and 258 engines have the taller block. I think it was raised 1/8", but I'm not positive right now. In theory you should be able to use a hollow pushrod that difference shorter than the 258 pushrod, but you need to know the exact difference. I may have it in my notes -- could be 1/16" taller instead of 1/8". The shaft head oils through a passage in the block (the later head and gasket will block it). The stud rocker head oils through the pushrods. You also need to make sure the lifters have a hole in the top. They should, as the end of the pushrod needs oil too. If they don't though, you'll need a new set of lifters.
 
The water pump should interchange (should, not positively will!). The later model ones (74 and later) will have more bolt holes and some will be larger, but it should bolt up and fit if you use some washers. The heater hose outlets might not be in the same position either. I wouldn't recommend using a used water pump though. The seals dry out and may wear out after a few weeks. Best to get a new one.
 
The fuel pump isn't a problem. Just two different style. You can use the newer style, just put an in-line fuel filter between the pump and tank.
 
]]> Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:12:10 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13669.html#13669 232 parts questions : ok, i did some digging and the... http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13616.html#13616 Author: Frantz
Subject: 1705
Posted: Nov/09/2007 at 9:18am

ok, i did some digging and the water pumps are different, the starters are different and idk about the fuel pump because the stock one is the old style with the sedimint bowl adn the new one is just a dyaphram with seperate fuel filter. In case anyone else had the same question thought i'd toss that out

Edited by Frantz - Nov/09/2007 at 9:18am]]> Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:18:01 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13616.html#13616 232 parts questions : It depends on what year 258 you... http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13451.html#13451 Author: tyrodtom
Subject: 1705
Posted: Nov/07/2007 at 11:10am

It depends on what year 258 you have. If it's the early 258, starter on the driver side, I think all other parts interchange. If it 's the later, much more common 258, starter on the right, about all that will interchange, is the fuel pump and maybe the water pump.]]> Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:10:49 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13451.html#13451 232 parts questions : I've got a 65 232 in my marlin... http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13435.html#13435 Author: Frantz
Subject: 1705
Posted: Nov/07/2007 at 6:16am

I've got a 65 232 in my marlin thats missing a few parts (such as the head). i have lots of 258 parts and was wondering what is bolt on. are the starters bolt on swaps? how about a more likely swapable fuel pump? and if i were really lucky you would tell me the water pump is also swapable! As for the head.. i'll just hunt one down.. its only to make the motor move cause i'm bored, i've aranged to buy a whole entra engine/tranny here soon (hopefully)]]> Wed, 07 Nov 2007 06:16:22 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/232-parts-questions_topic1705_post13435.html#13435