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The AMC Forum : 195.6 two barrel upgrade http://theamcforum.com/forum/ This is an XML content feed of; The AMC Forum : 6 Cylinder Engine Repair and Modifications : 195.6 two barrel upgrade Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:12:45 +0000 Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:00:11 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 10.03 360 theamcforum.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=24775 The AMC Forum http://theamcforum.com/forum/http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/skin_images_amc/forumheader.png http://theamcforum.com/forum/ 195.6 two barrel upgrade : The plate itself doesn't... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227760.html#227760 Author: farna
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Posted: Dec/04/2010 at 5:00pm

The plate itself doesn't do anything for flow because it's just the roof of the intake, the bulk is built into the block. It won't matter which intake plate you use. The Weber may bolt to the Carter WCD intake plate, but you'd still need a spacer. You can actually make a flat aluminum plate (should be at least 1/4" thick, 3/8" would be better) to fit on the top of the intake and drill it for whatever carb you want. I've done that -- still have one drilled for a pair of 1V Carter YFs. There will still be a problem with clearance between the carb and valve cover. At least with the 58-63 Americans there is plenty room vertically to raise the carb. On a 64-65 American there may not be.
]]> Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:00:11 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227760.html#227760 195.6 two barrel upgrade : From what I have read in Tom's... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227442.html#227442 Author: Wrambler
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Posted: Dec/03/2010 at 3:25pm

From what I have read in Tom's emails and postings the 2bbl plate really has nothing much to offer in the way of flow improvement. Something about the way it sits the carb and the valve cover issue to boot.
I'm sure if someone were to email Tom directly and ask him he will come on and chime in. I'm pretty sure he is busy with job, life, etc, right now.

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 15:25:05 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227442.html#227442 195.6 two barrel upgrade : Tom covers the linkage issue... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227425.html#227425 Author: kensamc
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Posted: Dec/03/2010 at 1:11pm

Tom covers the linkage issue pretty well ...... fabbed but simple it seems ....

And he had to move the linkage up the firewall ...

Had not thought of clearing the valve cover; the Weber is pretty small but I suppose the 2 bbl

could line up differently

Is any additional flow from the 2 bbl worth the extra effort of a bigger or offset spacer ?

Would an offset spacer decrease any gains from the 2 bbl intake?

]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:11:02 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227425.html#227425 195.6 two barrel upgrade : You'll need to fabricate... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227398.html#227398 Author: jpdylon
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Posted: Dec/03/2010 at 12:04pm

You'll need to fabricate linkage to make the weber work on either intake. You will also need to raise the carb up with a spacer(s) if using the 2bbl manifold. Because of the proximity to the valve cover the carb would bump into the valve cover - which is why the jeep adapter makes the 1bbl intake work.

I haven't personally tried putting any other carb on my 2bbl intake - but just looking at it i definitely see clearance issues at the least.

Now that I finally have the T96 rebuilt I'm going to investigate different fuel delivery methods. My machinist friend may help me design an intake for fuel injection. Fuel injected rambler managed by megasquirt sounds like fun. . . ]]> Fri, 03 Dec 2010 12:04:29 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227398.html#227398 195.6 two barrel upgrade : **I forgot : I have never seen... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227263.html#227263 Author: kensamc
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Posted: Dec/02/2010 at 8:20pm

**

I forgot : I have never seen a Weber firsthand ... so I am fearing / assuming tha it will not just bolt up ....

But maybe I am dead wrong ....

]]> Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:20:55 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227263.html#227263 195.6 two barrel upgrade : I know the redline kit has an... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227262.html#227262 Author: kensamc
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Posted: Dec/02/2010 at 8:19pm

I know the redline kit has an adapter to the one barrel ...

so I am sure they are out there separately ...

I don't think there will be a premade adapter to put the Weber carb on a factory 2 bbl intake though ...

I read Tom's stuff a lot ... happy to hear from someone who has seen the car ...

If I don't think the 1 barrel intake would pose a problem ( and Tom sure as he** knows more than me) than I may have a 2 bbl intake I can offer up for sale to someone else here

doing more of a restoration, or staying with the WCD

]]> Thu, 02 Dec 2010 20:19:55 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227262.html#227262 195.6 two barrel upgrade : There is a 2bbl to one bbl Jeep... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227242.html#227242 Author: pacerman
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Posted: Dec/02/2010 at 6:38pm

There is a 2bbl to one bbl Jeep adapter. I bought one off the net, forget where, a few weeks ago after reading Tom's website again and considering this little Carter/Holley 5200 for my car. The carb came from a Ford Cortina, but has the same 2-bbl base as the Carter bbd etc. I think Tom is very pleased with the carb and how he has it tuned. I saw it at the AMCRC convention in June/July in Sacramento and it does rev nice. Joe]]> Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:38:12 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227242.html#227242 195.6 two barrel upgrade : PacermanCommon sense would make... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227223.html#227223 Author: kensamc
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Posted: Dec/02/2010 at 5:04pm

Pacerman

Common sense would make me think that using the factory 2 bbl intake

would have the potential to flow better than the adapter to a one bbl from the Weber kit;

but do you think there would sufficient gains, on this little motor, to warrant the cost or trouble of fabbing an adapter to put the Weber on the factory 2 bbl?

I can't imagine it's a stock item anywhere .....

]]> Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:04:47 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post227223.html#227223 195.6 two barrel upgrade : I have pics of the wagon up... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post226711.html#226711 Author: kensamc
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Posted: Nov/30/2010 at 6:13pm

I have pics of the wagon up in members projects:

http://theamcforum.com/forum/1958-cross-country_topic23127.html

Asked a ton of questions here, and obviously still am ....

Juggling 3 projects, not counting my 86 Grand Wagoneer , daily driver,

so progress is slow going.

Car was a 1 bbl ... picked up intake and WCD from someone here a year ago .....

]]> Tue, 30 Nov 2010 18:13:53 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post226711.html#226711 195.6 two barrel upgrade : I will be glad to get my '62... http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post226704.html#226704 Author: oldwood
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Posted: Nov/30/2010 at 5:50pm

I will be glad to get my '62 195.6 running with its factory 2bbl. Have you posted pics of your '58 wagon?]]> Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:50:23 +0000 http://theamcforum.com/forum/1956-two-barrel-upgrade_topic24775_post226704.html#226704