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Wrambler 
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 Posted: Nov/16/2016 at 3:25pm |
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tom, Did you look at the AMC or Jeep bearings?
I just used a plain jane AMC bearing. They used them in the Jeeps up into mid 80's so still available. The I.D. should be correct too.
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tomj
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Posted: Nov/16/2016 at 10:07pm |
never occurred to me to look. (lookinglookinglooking...) huh. you're right, the ID is correct! but the outside is square with funny clips. never saw that before... what's the fork look like? is it the one with flat ends, parallel to the clutch, with very small locating nubs on the flat surface?  Edited by tomj - Nov/16/2016 at 10:13pm |
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1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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tomj
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Posted: Nov/16/2016 at 10:17pm |
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is the fork on the right the one that matches that '82 bearing, above?
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Posted: Nov/29/2016 at 10:30pm |
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OK so i'm still plugging away on this. the engine builder is taking longer (surprise. not.) than originally claimed, but under way. in the mean time i've been picking at the clutch stack.
the old AMC 9" clutch i sent off to Tennessee came back with uneven finger heights when installed. i returned it, they probably did the best they could with old junk, but one of the adjuster nuts has no threads up past the nut (run out of range). also the case itself is warped, doesn't sit flat on a table (even). so i'm gonna buy the Ford 2.3L 8.5" clutch set -- $81 from rockauto -- and have the flywheel drilled to accommodate it. i modified my throw out fork to accommodate the stock 1993 T5 T.O. bearing, so after all that, the end result ought to be nice -- the complete clutch set from a 1993 2.3L Mustang. (on the pre-64 americans a 10" clutch won't fit in the tiny bell housing, else i'd be using the AMC 10" or Ford 5.0 clutch.)
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Posted: Nov/29/2016 at 10:49pm |
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here's the modded fork. ground down then drove out the two stub fingers, filed a 270 degree round notch towards the edge. i heated a short length of 1/2" drill rod yellow red and cooled it slowly to anneal it (i hope), welded it across the fork (so the fingers would be aligned), cut and ground to fit. geometry is almost the same as stock, but i'll deal with finally once i get the new clutch junk.  |
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Posted: Dec/01/2016 at 8:55am |
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Yes the one on the right is correct.
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Posted: Dec/01/2016 at 12:09pm |
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Another couple options might be to use a Ford clutch from a Bronco try Zoom part number MU578-1 or or Center force DF228035. Both are available thru Summit Racing and are 9".
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Posted: Dec/06/2016 at 12:13pm |
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thanks heyjavelin. i ended up with a ford clutch...
the AMC 9" i had sent to Tennessee came back misadjusted, sent it back, same thing. one of the adjusters is basically over the limit, though correct on paper. not enough thread above the nut, i'm not using it. when this mess is over i'll offer all my spares for sale, this will make an easy rebuilder. anyway i ordered a Sachs replacement Ford 2.3L clutch, and it looks good. it's an 8.5" clutch -- and yes, the driven disc DOES fit under the AMC 8" clutch cover, with T5 splines, so this is in fact the magic disc i needed for putting a T5 into a breadbox (or bathtub) american, or any early-six car. * 8.5" driven disc, fits in the AMC 8" pressure plate. has 1-16" x 10 spline hub for the T5/T4/SR4 transmission. the static (uninstalled) finger height of the cover is .25" lower, so i need to get a taller clutch fork pivot but that's not a big deal. OH MAN! the bolt pattern is identical to the AMC 8" pattern! -- EXCEPT -- 0.1" smaller radius! lol, so close... so i'll have the flywheel drilled for it. it's Sachs K0315-04, http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1382946&jsn=254 at $82 for the whole kit, new, its still cheaper than buying a refurb disc by itself. and when was the last time there was a NEW clutch kit for these engines? |
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Posted: Dec/07/2016 at 3:43pm |
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minor update: i'm simply going to use the Sachs disk with the AMC 8" clutch cover i have now. i've got two of these, both are very nice rebuilds, and though absurdly old and obsolete, they ought to hold me for decades. and i if run out of clutch, i'll drill for the sachs. no advantage to that at this time, and i'd have to fix the clutch for height since the Sachs cover is less tall, so it would just cost money and time for no gain.
i will try to find a source for the driven disc only. rockauto carries only complete kits. the '93 ford is 23 years old, so i'd like to have a spare disc on my shelf now, when it's likelt to be $20 and in stock. |
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