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71-74 Jav Window guide Bushings "No More Wobble" |
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PlazinJavelin
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My Jav currently has one 69 and one 70 door mounted. (Soon be be replaced with these 74's) I've not torn apart other year doors yet. What rollers are you refering to? When I pull the old doors I can have a look inside. |
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FuzzFace2
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/05/2007 Location: Angier, N.C. Status: Offline Points: 10356 |
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Thanks guys, It is good to know where you guys bought it so if others want to do the same they can. One place I Googled had machining and forming so guess if you have prints they could do up what you need but thinking would not pay unless you did a bunch of them.
Plazin the older doors have tracks that rollers or wheels fit in to guide the glass up & down. They are what came before what you guys are showing. They are a 2 peice but dont see why they could not be a solid wheel. I saw somewhere a square one that fit a ford, I guess thier tracks are straight and not curved like ours. You will see when you get into the old doors.
Dave ----
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PlazinJavelin
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Ok... here we are. Pit Crew sent me his beta set of bushing and they are now installed. Goodbye ugly zip tie. The window moves on the track a bit better as it more of a perfect fit instead of small bind given by the "well close enough I guess" zip ties. Compared to the worn out originals and the "you've got to be joking me" after market replacements being offered, these are a dream. Thanks again P.C. The vendors would have to be nuts not to stock these instead of that other junk. Yesterday I ran across one of the smaller guide pole bushings I'd bought. It's completely turned rubbery after a couple of months. You can bend it around like putty. I'd make pawning off any more of those things a crime in most states. |
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pit crew
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73 Hornet - 401EFI - THM400 - Twin Grip 20 |
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Fluffy73
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I'd definitely be down for a set. Other than the driver door missing it's bits that hold it open, the floppy driver window is the #1 thing I despise about my humpster.
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I am genetically incapable of being Politically Correct.
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PlazinJavelin
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I thought so, but after seeing your window mounts all cleaned up and coated in black It's got me thinking ... hmmm. I'm going to have to call it good enough for now though. So many bigger things I've got to get done. And watch for another thread coming soon on the sound deadening material I used in the doors. Man, I thought the engine was going to be my biggest challenge. The effort and cost restoring the doors rival the engine. (that's with weather seals included). |
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pit crew
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Edited by pit crew - Jun/12/2012 at 7:59am |
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73 Hornet - 401EFI - THM400 - Twin Grip 20 |
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71SC360
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AMark has reproductions of the original style.....
Edited by 71SC360 - Jun/12/2012 at 8:38am |
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pit crew
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Thanks for pointing that out. That is good information to have. The problem with the original style upper guide spacers, and I am sure Troy will agree, is that as designed they provide limited contact area with the window guide post and allow the window glass to wobble even when the guide spacers are "brand new". I think the real goal in this case was not that we were looking for a 100% correct restoration or even a replacement for a hard to find part as much as a longing for a solid long lasting solution to the wobble issue. I think Troy's design is the best so far. Newer materials like Acetel provide an opportunity to "improve" on the original design with more support, better wear resistance, and improved lubrication characteristics. The overall design of the window guides in the big body Javelins was a bit weak right from day one. But then again I don't think anyone at AMC ever expected to see their cars in use and on the roads some 35 years, or more, later. |
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71SC360
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I knew that you guys were looking for a better soloution to a common problem, I figured that I'd post those in case some haven't seen them...
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