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'63 Rambler Classic oil filter type

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Originally posted by ramblinrev ramblinrev wrote:

Originally posted by 68_Javy 68_Javy wrote:

DO NOT use a Fram filter, they literally destroy engines, their filter material falls apart and does a terrible job filtering the oil, you might as well put a cup there instead of a Fram. any other brand is fine, I've been using purolators and Mobil1s lately, I am happy with how they work. K&N makes a nice one too.
While I don't trust Frams the way I used to, I really don't think they'd still be in the oil filter business if they were as bad as you say!Wink  I'll use them when I have to, but prefer to use WIX which makes NAPA Gold (and every September and March my local NAPA store sells filters at 75% off list! So, I just stocked up!)

haha that's true, I won't use them based on information that I've seen. They work, but don't expect to get past 150000 miles with a Fram filter. while they do block some particles, the cardboard end caps always seem to buckle the inside "fins" usually putting a hole in them causing some particles to get by. 

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If it's a 195.6, and the filter is up near the radiator, then it's the Wix 1050 filter. You don't need to change it every oil change, because it's a bypass system, eg. only partial filtration. Better than nothing I suppose!

If it's down low on the passenger side (U.S.) then it's the "modern" filter, NAPA 1258, WIX 51258, Mobile One M1-203, ACDELCO PF24. Both the modern six (199/232/258) and the aluminum 195.6 have it down low (on the block, or the pump, respectively).

Fram USED TO BE a quality item, but seems to have become crap. There have been instances of the elements shredding, but the internal filter ends are glued on and seem likely to separate, unlike the NAPA Gold/Wix filters which have metal ends (or did...!) and a spring, so it won't lift/flow around unless severely plugged.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Apr/12/2012 at 9:32am
FRAM wasn't the only one to have problems with a foreign filter supplier in the late 80s (or was it early 90s?). Fram apparently used that particular supplier for more filters than anyone else, as they took the hardest hit. Might be a QC problem -- the others may have recalled filters whereas my understanding is that FRAM just let the questionable filters sell out. Not sure on the details, but do recall reading several other low cost brands used the same supplier and had the same problems for about a one year period, but FRAM is the only one that lingers. I've used some over the last 10 years with no problems, but could just be that newer car filters are better quality, whereas the older model filters are farmed out to lower cost/quality suppliers. 
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