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amcglass
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spacers maybe?
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Javmanpres
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pwreimers
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Vinny had that idea, and I thought it a prospect, too. It makes me nervous. I'd have to convert the whole assembly over, including the backing plate I think, to 2-1/2" wide drum/shoe and still have to use a spacer. I suppose it's feasible to experiment with swapping the hub using the wider drum, use the 2" shoe, and use the spacer. I don't know... There's gotta be a better way. |
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pwreimers
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My experience with Rock Auto was the opposite. They took back my drums and paid the return shipping. I sent them the same pictures and they had no problem. I did have to telephone them, though. The website showed the return would be that I paid that portion, which prompted me to call them. The phone guy was tremendous. He followed up VERY well. I'm impressed, and that doesn't happen very often. Actually, when I approach these situations I usually let them know I want them to be successful and this is my way of doing that. I never help people that I could care less about. I only help those who want to excel. Their data on the website remains, though. Getting that right will probably take time, as farna noted. Regards, Pete |
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pwreimers
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You know, that's a great option, now that I've been forced to re-look at this. Since that drum is wider, if I put it on the existing hub using a spacer that's half as wide as the width difference, then the shoe would remain in the center of the wider hub. The 2" wide shoe would not use the entire width of the drum, and would wear a band into it. The wheel would be about 1/4" further out, perhaps a bit more as I recall. Would that work? Thanks, tyrodtom! You forced me to think differently. Pete |
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Wagon Nut
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I know this is an older thread, but I am having the EXACT issue with replacement drums. Previous tech articles indicated that a 15"replacement drum from a mid 60's car would fit on my 1959 full size rambler with 15" rims. Same issue- the rim doesn't seat against the drum & there is a 3/8" gap. I am wondering if a stock steel rim from a mid 60's amc would fit? I'd like to keep my stock full size hubcaps tho.
Ironically - a 14" rim fits this new drum flush to the rim, without the gap.... but won't clear the steering /tie rod. Farna -you gotta know the solution to this! |
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farna
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I've never run into that problem. However, I'd use a spacer between the drum and rim. I know you can get 1/4" spacers easily. Obviously there was a design change in the drums and rims.
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6768rogues
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If the supplier for Rock Auto says it will fit, they will do nothing for you, they will blame you for the mistake, and they will not consider changing their listing so others do not get the wrong parts. That is why I quit buying there.
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vinny
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I went from the 2 1/2 wide 9's to 10's. There was a clearance problem maybe with the tie rod. Using the spindles that came with the 10" fixed the problem. The spindle bases were maybe 1/8" to 1/4" thicker. I used them because I had them but would not have hesitated to put spacers inside the spindles. If the bolts are of good quality I don't think that would be a problem. Same goes for between the drum and wheel.
Are there differences between the 2" wide and 2 1/2" wide spindles and backing plates? It seems on the 2 1/2 most if not all was gained by growing the drum outward. Can the wider drum by itself be bolted on in place of the narrower drum and still turn without interference? I've been spending some time cleaning the garage. When I get to the 2 1/2 brakes I'll get some pictures and measurements. They were saved to be used in making a trailer but that ambition has long since faded. Edited by vinny - Apr/09/2017 at 9:46am |
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Wagon Nut
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I think I'm gonna try to locate some mid 60's rims to see if they will fit on these drums correctly. I have run spacers/adapters before & I'm not a fan. I have already replaced the wheel studs once & I'd have to get longer ones to use spacers.
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vinny
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These brakes 9" X 2 1/2". Spindle is 5.1" long, bottom of base to top, base is 1/2" thick. Edited by vinny - Apr/10/2017 at 9:36pm |
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