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stickshifter
AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/17/2008 Location: Bed Rock Status: Offline Points: 573 |
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And your point is?
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SKeown
AMC Addicted Joined: Jul/30/2009 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 3085 |
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I thought my point was clear, the introduction of a larger bore/taller deck block has provided additional performance potential for an AMC style engine beyond what was availiable to Fred Brewer at the time.
But, AMC diehards that truely want to win races are sometimes confronted with a decision to pump gobs of money into an outdated design or spend it on a better design with many more parts availiable. Don't think I've forgotten what you and others have achieved with OEM blocks and cranks. As I've said before, I truely admire where you've gone with the AMC platform.
SKeown
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Rogue401
AMC Addicted Joined: Nov/26/2010 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 1280 |
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The same is true of anybody who wants to stick with an Olds, Buick, Pontiac, Ford FEs Chrysler wedge. There is still at least as much potential or more in an AMC as any of these other out dated designs. It's just a ton more expensive and more work, but a lot more satisfying. But yes, you are limited by the size of the original AMC block.
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SKeown
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If owning the same AMX for 43 years doesn't make me a diehard, I don't know what would. I do find it disturbing when a friend adds a cam, headers, revamps the computer, changes the converter and rear ratio on a 115K mile LS powered Camaro and runs 10.60. Yes, doing it our way is demanding in every regard, but gratifying.
SKeown
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bulletpruf
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You ain't kidding! I just got finished building a Ram Air IV 400 Pontiac for my 70 GTO. Pure Stock Drags build. EXPENSIVE!
The 428 FE for my 66 Fairlane GT convt was a bit better - started with a 390 block (had to offset bore #1 cylinder b/c of thin wall), used unported Edelbrock heads, 10:1 forged pistons, stock FE rods and 428 crank, mild solid roller, etc. Should be just over 500 hp for a fairly reasonable amount of $.
Scott
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Please check out my YouTube channel for vintage car and truck shenanigans! https://www.youtube.com/@THEBULLETPROOFGARAGE
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amxgtx
AMC Fan Joined: Mar/21/2009 Location: Kansas Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Interesting subject again.
When does and AMC engine cease being an AMC engine? Compare my 1967 GTX Engine to Fred's or Limey's engines. Huge difference in the components. Now the iron block and heads in my 69 AMX race car and the Aluminum block and heads from Indy, another huge difference. Not to mention stock suspenion vs back half vs chassis cars and the capability of the driver. I guess my point is speed costs money. It does not matter what brand or make, if you want to go fast you are going to spend a lot of money. Thats the difference between 13 seconds and 7 seconds. AMXGTX
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SG128
AMC Apprentice Joined: Feb/19/2011 Location: Southampton, PA Status: Offline Points: 159 |
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Johnathan- I can't tell you what year it was but, I'm 100% positive your car was in attendance at our annual "All-AMC Day" at Cecil County Dragway a few years back, before it went out to the southwestern USA. I think the owner at that time had 2 AMX's, the other a nice black 68-9 street car and yours. If I'm not mistaken, I also think your car may have been painted a solid red or orange before its current white edition. Anyhow, I was in the left lane driving the original WIBG Pro Stock Gremlin at the time, and unfortunately, without wheelie bars on the car. I remember looking over at the car as we staged and next thing I knew, I let go of the trans brake button, all I saw was sky as the front end went straight into the biggest wheelstand I've ever been along for the ride in. I was fortunate enough to keep it off the wall but it was a costly run as after coming back down, it smashed the oil pan and bent one of the front Monocoque wheels. I know the car's owner and I would LOVE to find any pictures of that pass but we've resigned ourselves to the fact that all the cameras must have been on your car instead.
Keep up the good work and us posted on your exploits!
Regards-
Don Bangs
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RADAMX
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Not sure when it would have been painted red or ornge but when it arrived in Arizona it still had the red white and blue paint .It Is a really nice car The owner here messed up the paint .Then painted it solid white
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Glenn Quinn
AMC Apprentice Charter Member Joined: Jul/01/2007 Location: Conshohocken PA Status: Offline Points: 212 |
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Don,
The photo I posted of car is from our race at Cecil County. I had my street AMX their so it must have been 2006.
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The "X", 8.74 @ 162 - N/A
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Turbo Tom
AMC Apprentice Joined: Jul/10/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 152 |
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I was out at an ADRL event 2 years ago and saw Freds car.
He was working on the Lenco. Had a nice talk with him. Good times
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1979 Spirit Drag Car
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