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Wow - didn't think this would be a contentious issue.

I already have a dual exhaust although I am still running standard exhaust manifolds.  The heat riser has been removed.  

I am looking for smooth running, not a performance jump.  Everything seems to be geared towards the 4bbl carbs.

So - can I use some kind of adapter plate instead of changing the whole intake?  Never considered that.
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Performers are made for ‘70+ taller deck, may not fit without machine work. Other Edelbrock options for early motors are airgap and Torker, the latter of which I would not recommend for a street 290. 

Stock 4 Bbl iron intakes from ‘66 to ‘69 only accept the Carter AFB as far as I know. The Carter AFB is a good carb and came standard on ‘68 & ‘69 AMX w/ 290. If you get the 390 casting # 3191736 there is a slight 10HP boost. 

The early version of the R4B can be used on your engine w/o modification and w/ a Holley 4 Bbl - a bit pricey w/ AMC p/n, not too bad pricewise without. A new or refurbished 500 CFM Holley carburetor w/ electric choke & vacuum secondaries from Summit on a street 290 would be nice. 


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I have a small holly 4 barrel with vacum secondary electric choke ( which can be a pain on colder days) on my rebuilt 290 . Still trying to tweak it but it does seam to boost the horses 
a bit on stock manifold 2 inch exhaust thrush   mufflers no issues with bolting it up thinking on going to high rise intake to up hp a bit more
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A long time ago I removed the two barrel from my 58 Ford of similar cubes to yours and put on a small cfm Holley with vacuum secondaries. The fuel economy really improved and I got better top end too. No question in my mind that a four barrel with small primaries will get better fuel economy than a two barrel. 

Right now I am trying to rebuild a Rochester quadrajet to go on the 350 that will go into my truck. At 750 cfm I think that one would be a bit much for the 290, although they did also use them on 307's. 


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Stock 343 or 390 (1969 and under) 4bbl
manifold and a eddy (Carter) 500 or 600.

Excellent fuel economy and performance.

A 290 will LOVE it.

Don't listen to the people
that say a 600 is too big.

The Eddy 500 or 600 will be perfect.

This may make no sense to you, but A Holley 600 would be a tad big...
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2bbl to 4bbl on a stock, smog, wore out 304 is worth 9/10s in the 1/4 mile with zero tuning. That was proven on a 1/4 mile track. No stop watches, G-tech meters or buttdynos/feelings involved....

Even if you don't race, that will sure help with pulling out into traffic or passing someone. MPG is better as well, along with throttle response. Much crisper.
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If you want to just get it to run well. What carburetor was on your manifold originally?  Not certain about the 290. Im familier with the later stuff.  I know the holley will fit where a motorcraft 2100 fits.
If the Holley will fit your intake, thats the way to go.

I myself prefer a 4bbl on a 4bbl intake. But I also realize your situation. 
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Originally posted by Boris Badanov Boris Badanov wrote:

Stock 343 or 390 (1969 and under) 4bbl
manifold and a eddy (Carter) 500 or 600.

Excellent fuel economy and performance.

A 290 will LOVE it.

Don't listen to the people
that say a 600 is too big.

The Eddy 500 or 600 will be perfect.

This may make no sense to you, but A Holley 600 would be a tad big...


Agree the 600 isn't too big.  Just keep in mind the 290 is two different engines.  The 4V is 225hp and was fitted stock with what essentially is the Eddy 600.  The 2V is 200hp and was fitted with a 350 cfm IIRC.  The 600 works fine but I don't think the 500 leaves anything on the table and is probably a better fit.  

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Originally posted by Midnight Rambler Midnight Rambler wrote:

Originally posted by Boris Badanov Boris Badanov wrote:

Stock 343 or 390 (1969 and under) 4bbl
manifold and a eddy (Carter) 500 or 600.

Excellent fuel economy and performance.

A 290 will LOVE it.

Don't listen to the people
that say a 600 is too big.

The Eddy 500 or 600 will be perfect.

This may make no sense to you, but A Holley 600 would be a tad big...


Agree the 600 isn't too big.  Just keep in mind the 290 is two different engines.  The 4V is 225hp and was fitted stock with what essentially is the Eddy 600.  The 2V is 200hp and was fitted with a 350 cfm IIRC.  The 600 works fine but I don't think the 500 leaves anything on the table and is probably a better fit.  
The 4V also included dual exhaust to gain its 25 horsepower rating increase.
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Since you're in the UK what about a Weber 38 DGES? Lots of Jeep kits made for hi-po 258s, so should work well on a stock 290. The Jeep 258 adapter should work with the stock 290/2V intake -- AMC sixes used the Carter BBD which has the small bolt pattern, not the Holley standard that later model V-8s used. I think it's the same as the carbs you have.

You can get 2V to 4V carb adapters that will work, but they do restrict flow some at higher speeds. At normal highway speeds you will rarely trip the secondaries in, but when you do they won't flow well if opened very far with the adapter. I'd stick with a 450-500 cfm carb, but the 600 can be tuned to work well. The secondaries just won't open as fast or far as a smaller carb. Generally, the smaller the primaries the better power at low speeds though. You give up some high speed power with the smaller carb, a little low speed with the bigger. That's why for pure street use a smaller is generally better.
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