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While you can still get an all new Holley 350CFM 2300 (List #7448 & #80350), I agree with FSJunkie.

Try looking for a Holley 2300 for an AMC 250-327 first. The next best thing would be an Autolite 2100/2150 from an AMC 290-304 or a Ford 221-302.
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Thanks for the info FSJunkie. My goal was to get a 4bbl intake manifold off a 327 which should bolt up fine to my 287 engine. This would allow me a multitude of carb choices. Unfortunately I have been unable to locate a 4bbl 327 intake manifold. They seem very scarce. Anyone out there have one they want to sell??

Also, doing an internet search for an original Holley 2300 Rambler has proven unsuccessful as well. I agree that it is all the linkage, transmission and throttle connections on a generic 2300 has me nervous to buy just any 2300.

Car show time is quickly approaching here in Connecticut and I'd love to get this Rambler on the road.
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Your fastest option given your time constraints is probably to make the 2209 work for now.

I forgot to mention that the 2209 uses an odd size air cleaner base. The 2100, 2150, 2300, 4150, and 4160 all use the same (5" IIRC) air cleaner base. Regardless of which carb you chose, you will need a different air cleaner.

4bbl intakes are becoming expensive. You have to be careful about the choke heat stove passage in them too; they seen to have a tendency to corrode inside and allow exhaust to flow into the choke. I've had to plug off both of mine and convert to my own choke heat stove with electric assist.

Original Rambler carbs pop up from time to time, usually for pretty cheap. Cheaper than a new manufacture carb, that is for sure.

The 4bbl swap itself is easy since the manifold doesn't contain coolant passages or seal the lifter valley like the later AMC V8s. The main trouble is locating the manifold, carb, and air cleaner....which all then need to be cleaned, rebuilt/repaired, painted, and reproduction stickers applied. My 2209 to 4160 conversion cost me about $300 by the time I was done. 
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The only problem with finding an original Rambler 2300 is they are few and far between, and may be near worn out. You'll have better luck finding a Ford 2100 or 2150. The 2150 is the newest, but only came in two sizes -- 287 (1.08) and 351 (1.21). Either would be good for a 287, with the 351 being my preference. You want a pre 83 model though, as 83-86 models are electronic feedback. The 2150 started being used in 73 model cars.

The 2100 was used longer and more widely, and is a lot easier to find in good condition. There are 8 sizes ranging from 190-424 cfm, with the 245-356 cfm models appropriate for a 287. See https://fordsix.com/ci/CarbChoice.html#2V
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Friend of mine has a 1961 327, and it has the Holley 2300..
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Thanks again for advice everyone. I appreciate it.
Looks like i’ll be looking for an air cleaner assembly if I go with one of these other carb options.
I just came across this 2300 EFI setup on the Holley website:

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_2300_2bbl/parts/550-849?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7MTtiYbe2gIVR0SGCh3WNQGXEAQYAiABEgIt1PD_BwE

Perhaps an option for my 287 Rambler with 2209 Holley 2bbl replacement? Ideas? Advice? They show the dimensions for the mount holes on the 2300 in one of the pics there. Anyone have their 2209 carb off and can take measurements to see if it will fit my manifold without me having to remove mine?
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Not sure if that link works so I’ll try again.

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_2300_2bbl/parts/550-849?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7MTtiYbe2gIVR0SGCh3WNQGXEAQYAiABEgIt1PD_BwE
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The link works, here it is where you can just click on it:
https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_2300_2bbl/parts/550-849?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI7MTtiYbe2gIVR0SGCh3WNQGXEAQYAiABEgIt1PD_BwE

To get a clickable link highlight the link after you paste it in then click on the little globe icon. That will open a pop-up (won't if you have pop-ups disabled!) window. Just click on "ok" in the window.

The 4V system is only $150 more, but you would have to get an intake. I'd think the 2300 EFI system would work well on the 287 for a street cruiser. The Holley system should be easy to set up, and you will eliminate a few issues people have with carbs and modern gasoline. It's the overall formulation of the gasoline, not just the added ethanol that most people blame issues on. Gasoline is formulated a lot differently than it was in the 60s and 70s -- even non-ethanol gasoline will cause some issues.
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Thanks for the help on the clickable link. Forum novice here. Lol. The more i look at this 2300 EFI setup, the more I’m leaning towards it. Especially if I can use my existing manifold and it bolts right up.
Here’s dimensions of the EFI 2300 from their website:



Anyone got their Holley 2209 carb off or a spare one around and can verify it will fit?
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