232- vaccum wipers off manifold?+ fuel pump Q's

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   Hi. Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post this, but I was wondering if there was a thread or if someone has succesfully ran thier vaccum wipers off the manifold.  

I have a 1969 rambler with the 232 engine. I recently purchased a refurbished dual action pump which lasted about two drives. The pump is under warranty, but i have to send the bad one back so im guessing it will be a month before i get another one. I purchased a new single action pump today just so i can get the car running. I was thinking if there is a good way to run the wipers off the manifold, with using one of those air cans, maybe i can just get my money back for the bad refurbished dual action pump which will also save me a little $. Let me know what you think, thank you.

UPDATE: See page two. Have some questions about fuel pump compatibility

Edited by dirtydan - Jul/02/2017 at 12:14pm

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dirtydan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: Feb/28/2017 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote dirtydan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 232- vaccum wipers off manifold?+ fuel pump Q's Posted: Jun/27/2017 at 9:22pm
	Hi. Wasn't sure if this is the right place to post this, but I was wondering if there was a thread or if someone has succesfully ran thier vaccum wipers off the manifold. I have a 1969 rambler with the 232 engine. I recently purchased a refurbished dual action pump which lasted about two drives. The pump is under warranty, but i have to send the bad one back so im guessing it will be a month before i get another one. I purchased a new single action pump today just so i can get the car running. I was thinking if there is a good way to run the wipers off the manifold, with using one of those air cans, maybe i can just get my money back for the bad refurbished dual action pump which will also save me a little $. Let me know what you think, thank you. UPDATE: See page two. Have some questions about fuel pump compatibility Edited by dirtydan - Jul/02/2017 at 12:14pm

mixed up Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jun/16/2015 Location: Monroe mich Status: Offline Points: 2176	Post Options Post Reply Quote mixed up Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 12:49am
	you can run the wipers off just manifold but they will slow down with acceleration because vacume drops off a canister will help I just had a brain fart find a 99 or newer diesel ford pickup they use a electric vacume pump for all here needs it might work
	69 amx 290 auto 65 220 290 4spd 80 ford fairmont

pacerman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Supporter of TheAMCForum Joined: Jul/03/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9057	Post Options Post Reply Quote pacerman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 5:48am
	It helps if the vacuum motor for your wipers is healthy too. If it needs to be rebuilt, Peter Stathes, an AMC vendor can rebuild it or you can use Ficken Wiper Service. The cost is about the same. Joe
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dirtydan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: Feb/28/2017 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote dirtydan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 12:59pm
	The motor is in great shape. When I put on my refurbished dual action pump I was surprised how well they worked and how much speed adjustment there was. The bottom half of the pump just started spurting oil after about two uses so I am kind of hesitant to just put another refurb. on there. Someone mentioned that I can just hook up a vacuum pump from pretty much any car that had a vacuum wiper system and hook it up to the manifold?

tomj Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Jan/27/2010 Location: earth Status: Offline Points: 7539	Post Options Post Reply Quote tomj Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 10:16pm
	well, with a good fuel/booster pump, and a good wiper motor, vacuum wipers are as good as electrics, done and done. it's just that no one likes to bring them up to snuff, 40, 50 years later! it's a PITA! either money or time (as always). i run vacuum wipers off my 195.6 OHV, and it's got a cam with overlap, so my maximum vacuum is about 10 InHg at idle. i carefully cleaned up my wiper motor, complete disassembly and lube with Vaseline, which is about the right viscosity. but this particular motor the leather wiper (yes, dead animal) was OK, in previous cars it was ruined, loose and leaking. YMMV. so with a "decent" motor with this low vacuum motor, it works fine -- as long as you never press the gas pedal :-) i live in Los Angeles, 99% of my driving is SouthWest driving. it's adequate for me. i was caught in a very heavy New Mexico downpour, one that would rival a midwest storm, where on an interstate people were pulling over due to lack of visibility. it "worked" as long as i let off the throttle. you'll be fine until your new pump comes home!
	1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto 1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com

vinny Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Supporter of TheAMCForum Joined: Jan/05/2012 Location: Calgary Status: Offline Points: 2837	Post Options Post Reply Quote vinny Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 10:34pm
	The original fuel/vacuum pumps last a long time. I got close to fifty years with mine on a 196 before it went to the next owner and I think the one on the 232 I am using is also probably fifty years old. The wiper motor I had to repair when the car was 20 to 25 years old and it had over 100k miles on it. There should be no problem hooking it up to manifold pressure. That was common before the use of vacuum pumps.

Ollie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Sep/17/2012 Location: Brandon, MS Status: Offline Points: 2801	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ollie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/28/2017 at 10:48pm
	There is a thread about using an auxiliary 12V vacuum pump to work the wiper system. I even bought a pump, but never messed with it. Never heard of anyone posting results. I run my wipers straight off the manifold. I just covered 2500 miles and used my wipers a few times. Keep your foot out of the carburetor and they will work just fine. If its raining so hard you cannot see... oh well...just stop. Having AMC Fun, Ollie
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dirtydan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Apprentice Joined: Feb/28/2017 Location: Oregon Status: Offline Points: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote dirtydan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/29/2017 at 3:57pm
	Thanks for the advice. I guess it doesn't matter anymore because I was not able to track down a single action pump that works for my car anyway.... Just an fyi the fuel pump listed under my model year and engine type ('69 rambler, 232) at autozone and a couple of other local places I went to was NOT compatible with my motor. It was similar, but the mount was upside down relative to mine and the arm was of a slightly different design. And I don't think setting up an electric pump would be worth it with the proper one coming eventually. I will just have to be patient and not drive my car for a month or so, which sucks because it's summer after all... I guess its back to the moped Edited by dirtydan - Jun/29/2017 at 4:00pm

REBEL_BOB Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Nut Joined: Jul/14/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 453	Post Options Post Reply Quote REBEL_BOB Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/29/2017 at 8:42pm
	DAN old cars need rest too

Lucas660 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List AMC Addicted Joined: Apr/16/2012 Location: Vic, Australia Status: Offline Points: 1344	Post Options Post Reply Quote Lucas660 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Jun/30/2017 at 5:29am
	Does camjams post in the v8 section apply to the vacuum assist pumps? I think it would. Search for fuel pumps wth? Or something like that. He found a problem with the rebuilt pumps and has a great write up on how he solved it.