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1973 Gremlin Project.... "The Demise of Sanity"

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The flywheel in my AMX used to get stuck as you describe. With the AMX pointed down a clear driveway, I would start the AMX in gear and the starter would "drive" the AMX in gear a few feet down the driveway at which time I would jamb on the brakes. In my case, this usually released the stuck clutch.
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Originally posted by 69BBB3904spAMX 69BBB3904spAMX wrote:


The flywheel in my AMX used to get stuck as you describe. With the AMX pointed down a clear driveway, I would start the AMX in gear and the starter would "drive" the AMX in gear a few feet down the driveway at which time I would jamb on the brakes. In my case, this usually released the stuck clutch.

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Wish it was that easy...
Just tried the "extreme" way. Hooked a full sized pick up and a couple of straps.
Gave a few tugs on it and all it did was make skid marks...
Have to make some room so I have a place to put all the parts that will be coming off, then tear down is going to commence...



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  Had the same problem with my Hornet.  Turns out the pivot bolt that holds the ball in place was to short and would not let the clutch release.  Put the correct length pivot bolt in and my problem was solved.  Keep in mind this was on a stock bell housing.  Hoping that its that simple and easy to fix!!  Lee  
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Well, to test if the input is too long for the hole in the crank you just have to loosen the trans to bell bolts and pry the trans back 1/8-1/4". Won't affect clutch operation, so push the clutch in and see if it rolls then. If not it's either the shaft binding on the pilot bushing or the clutch fork pivot is too short. 
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Appreciate all the feed back..
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Got everything apart yesterday. And the transmission is stuck and will not pull out. It is loose, but it's still... stuck like chuck.
I tried using a screw driver to get between the bell and the trans to see if I could pry it away a little bit and ended up bending the screw driver.
I have a very strong inclination that the pilot bushing is hung up on the input shaft. What worries me is that even IF I am able to get the something between the trans and the bell to pry it away, I might end up with a bigger problem as the input shaft might pull the pilot bushing out of the end of the crank. That in itself wouldn't be a big problem, except for the fact that I can't get the bell off unless I either pull the motor forward a couple of inches or completely pull everything back out.
That's the last thing I want to happen. Get the transmission loose and wanting to come out, but have the pilot bushing stuck on the end of the input shaft and not be able to pull the transmission out past the clutch plate.
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The nose of ths crank is substantially smaller than the splines clutch area. The pilot might pull through the clutch if stuck on the shaft...
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Originally posted by farna farna wrote:

The nose of ths crank is substantially smaller than the splines clutch area. The pilot might pull through the clutch if stuck on the shaft...


The bushing is a little bit bigger then the hole in the clutch plate. Just went and looked at one of my other T-10's that I have. The pilot bearing isn't going to fit through the clutch plate.
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Good news...
Got the transmission out and on the ground.
We used a couple of wooden wedges, a screwdriver and a bigger hammer.
How come sometimes, everything seems to come down to A BIGGER HAMMER..?!?!?!
The pilot bushing stayed in place and didn't come out with the input shaft.
The next step is to use some emery cloth on a hone and hone out the pilot bushing to clean it up a little bit. Clean up the end of the input shaft with some more emery cloth and to make sure that everything goes back in place properly.
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That didn't work as planned.
Gonna have to bite the bullet and get that scatter shield off so I can get to everything.
Something isn't right somewhere.
Just have to find it.
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Got stuff figured out... or at least I think I do.. LOL
When I got this scatter shield and installed it, I guess I didn't do a good enough job at making it concentric.
There isn't any "dowels" that anyone makes say like for the other big three that help with the alignment.
In other words... I guess I wasn't smart enough to get it to work.
I am just going to take it off and install a OEM bellhousing and throw it on the pile for the next build.
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