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1970's V-8 AMC Indy Cars

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Now this I did not know about... learn something new everyday.
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Where is the AMC Indy Car today?  In the Indy Museum?   Who has the other engines? 
Was everything destroyed/scrapped.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AlumV8 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/05/2016 at 9:59am
I found 3 all aluminum AMC V8 engines stamped with 360 with enough parts for 2 engines. When the project ended the engines were disassembled and sold to various companies and people. These were going to be used in a cigarette race boat. 

These are the pictures.
https://www.drop.com/sh/v44z4f19q8i7h1v/AABTpySvKljeO0DgLtXZ-PAHa?dl=0 - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v44z4f19q8i7h1v/AABTpySvKljeO0DgLtXZ-PAHa?dl=0
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Javelin_GT Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/05/2016 at 5:46pm
There was an iron Indy block, an aluminum block, and some aluminum heads on eBay a couple years back.  
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https://www.drop.com/sh/v44z4f19q8i7h1v/AABTpySvKljeO0DgLtXZ-PAHa?dl=0 - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/
v44z4f19q8i7h1v/AABTpySvKljeO0DgLtXZ-PAHa?dl=0

My computer is giving me a red flag and will not allow me to access this web site due to security problem of drop.com web site. Do you have an alternative to this web site.

ALSO my understanding one of the MAJOR PROBLEMS with THE AMC INDY car engine blocks was that they turn out to be porous in the 1979 version of the aluminum blocks. I got this from drag racers from back in the day that tried to use the blocks in the early 1980's with out much success.
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I looked for more info on the 1970's AMC Indy cars and found this. The car used in 1976 was a 1973 Eagle, sold to Patrick Racing for the 1973 Indy 500. It was fitted with a Ford V-8 and used in practice at Ontario 1973, but failed to qualify. It was raced by Dick Simon at two later races that season. It was used by Steve Krisiloff in 1974. It was sold to Jerry Grant at the start of 1975. Entered as the #73 Spirit Of Orange County by Fred Carillo for Grant. This car became Carillo's AMC engined car in 1976, driven by Jerry Grant and Lloyd Ruby. In 1977 the car was rebuilt to Offy specifications and sold to Jim McElreath. Subsequent history unknown.

In 1976 the car was entered in the following races;

3-14-76 Jimmy Bryan 150 Phoenix International Raceway
Qualified 19th Finished 22nd lost oil pressure.
Driver Jerry Grant

5-30-76 Indy 500
Qualified 20th Finished 27th 91 laps, flagged due to rain. It was the last car running.
Driver Jerry Grant

9-5-76 California 500 Ontario Motor Speedway
qualified 15th finished 10th, 9 laps down.
Driver jerry Grant

10-31-76 Texas 200 Texas World Speedway
Qualified 2nd Finished 13th 74 laps Oil leak.
Driver Lloyd Ruby

11-7-76 Bobby Ball 150 Phoenix International Raceway
Qualified 5th Finished 22nd 21 laps-blew engine, wrecked.
Driver Lloyd Ruby
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Fred Carillo for 1977 appeared with a new car said to be built in 76 on a 74 Eagle tub. Still powered by an AMC 209 ci turbo V-8. Car was entered as Carillo Rods #73 car for Jim McElreath. This car was also used in 1978 as the Warner Hodgdon entry for Roger McCluskey. Subsequent history unknown.

1977 season results.

3-6-77 Ontario 200 Ontario Motor Speedway
Qualified 13th Finished 17th 47 laps broken torsion bar
Driver Lloyd Ruby #73 Warner Hodgdon

5-30-77 Indy 500
Qualified 20th Finished 23rd 71 laps- wastegate
Driver Jim McElreath #73 Carillo Rods

6-26-77 Pocono 500 Pocono International Raceway
Qualified 32nd Finished 24th 27 laps- broken rockerarm
Driver Jim McElreath #73 Carillo Rods

7-17-77 Michigan 200 Michigan International Speedway
Qualified 9th Finished 12th 77 laps- turbo
Driver Jim McElreath #73 Carillo Rods

7-31-77 Texas 200 Texas World Speedway
Qualified 11th Finished 6th 98 laps-flagged
Driver Jim McElreath #74 Carillo Rods

9-4-77 California 500 Ontario Motor Speedway
Qualified 11th Finished 9th 186 laps-flagged
Driver Jim McElreath #74 AMC Experimental-Warner Hodgdon

9-17-77 Michigan 150 Michigan International Speedway
Qualified 12th Finished 5th 72 laps-flagged
Driver Jim McElreath #74 AMC Experimental-Warner Hodgdon
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1978 Season results

3-18-78 Jimmy Bryan 150 Phoenix International Speedway
Qualified 14th Finished 19th 47 laps-fuel leak
Driver Roger McCluskey #74 National Engineering-Warner Hodgdon

3-26-78 Ontario 200 Ontario Motor Speedway
Qualified 21st Finished 20th 5 laps-valve
Driver Roger McCluskey #74 National Engineering-Warner Hodgdon

4-15-78 Texas 200 Texas World Speedway
Qualified 10th Finished 20th 13 laps-vibration
Driver Roger McCluskey #74 National Engineering-Warner Hodgdon

5-28-78 Indy 500
Qualified 11th Finished 25th 82 laps-clutch
Driver Roger McCluskey #11 National Auto Engineering-Warner Hodgdon

10-28-78 Bobby Ball 150 Phoenix International Raceway
Qualified 22nd Finished 13th 143 laps-flagged
Driver Roger McCluskey #11 National Auto Engineering-Warner Hodgdon
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Aljav Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jun/10/2016 at 6:39am
Fantastic Info and pictures. Someone needs to take the time and document all this info and interview anyone who is still around from the project. We are not very good at documenting our AMC racing history. This was an amazing project with an enormous cost. I am working on AMC 's in Pro Stock and documenting as much as I can, a bit a slow but it is happening. 

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Great pictures!! Thanks for posting those!!!

I got to see it in person a couple of times (back in the day) at Ontario Raceway. I'm thinking I also saw it once at Riverside Raceway as well.

Sorry, I wasn't taking pictures of anything back then. I was just happy to be at the races.   

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