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trewyn15
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Posted: Oct/20/2014 at 9:18am |
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Hey all,
I have disc brakes on my '66 Rambler Rebel. They're the originals and obviously need a rebuild or replace. Now, to get rebuilt calipers I'm looking at $500 and that's before pads and turning the rotor. I have read elsewhere that I can stay AMC and go with 79-82 or similar AMC car brake setups. Apparently this is a good amount cheaper and easier to get parts, but with this I have some questions.. 1.) What car or cars are the best to use with this swap? 2.) Is this a direct bolt-on replacement? 3.) Is one car easier/cheaper to get parts for? I would like to stay AMC original and similar to the 4 pistons, but the price right now is just outrageous for me. I would much rather get it running and get it on the road and look to possibly get the 4 pistons rebuilt later. Any input is greatly appreciated!
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401MATCOUPE
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Rockauto has 4 piston calipers on sale for $92.00, rotor are much cheaper then the later ones, stick with what you have....just my opinion. I just paid over hundred for later rotor and 35 each for calipers
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trewyn15
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Do you know if those are rebuilt and do you have a part number? All I'm seeing is reman's for about $250 a piece. No point if I'm just going to have to get them honed and sleeved down the line? Also, what about pads?
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ramblinrev
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The Cardone rebuilt calipers that Rock Auto is selling for $92 plus shipping are not sleeved. They do have a 2 year warranty, for whatever that is worth.
I ordered one the other day for a spare. I have not installed it. It looks to me like a new/newer casting, so I'm wondering if somebody has created a 'new' replacement for these? American Parts Depot is selling a "new" replacement with no core charge for $160/each. It may be that what they are selling and what Cardone is marketing are related?? I'm not sure. |
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TX390AMX
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Mitch,
Several options available. I've heard American Parts Depot (americanpartsdepot.com) has affordable replacement new calipers available, check with Doug or Robin. I've used complete single piston setups from a late model Javelin and a 78 Hornet wagon to replace a drum setup on a 68 AMX and to replace the 4 piston brakes on my Go-Pac 68 AMX. The key is to find a complete brake system, everything from the backing plates, spindles, calipers, rotors and bolts from a donor car. There are minor variation in backspacing on some conversions, that's why you need the complete set up. There are several different lengths of spindles, resulting in different spacing of rotors and calipers. In other words, a spindle from a Concord and a rotor from a Matador and calipers from something else may not work well together. Put an ad in the Wanted section here or keep searching local junkyards. Not long ago someone here had a complete brake set up for sale. Be patient, you'll find something. Good luck. |
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trewyn15
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Thanks for the information! Do you know the part number for the Rock Auto calipers? I can't seem to find them, at $92 I may just bite the bullet there. Also, for pads, any idea where I can search for those? I think I would be okay to get my current rotors shaved down a bit.
Thanks a bunch! I think I will try to stick with the originals if at all possibly, keeping stock is what I would like to do, but if there's a direct swap that will save me a good amount of money then i'd rather stick with that. It's sounding like the best bet may be to just stick with stock at this point. I wonder if there is a newer vehicle that has a direct replacement for the American, that is just updated? Hmm, maybe someone else may know.. Thanks again guys!
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ramblinrev
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It's Cardone 184497. It appears that they still have them at that $92.79 price (plus core).
For pads, there's a set on Ebay for about $35; or you can use a new semi-metallic pad from Rock Auto that's listed for '66-68 Mopar products. MIGHT need to grind off a little tab on the shoe pad....Those are like $20. (I will sell you a set of those I have, if you wish for my cost.) Don't forget to use a Rock Auto 5% discount code....every bit helps! Paul Now that I noticed you're in Milwaukee, I can probably drop off those brake pads or you can come and see them and the Cardone caliper. I'm just north of you! |
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trewyn15
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Thanks for the info! I sent you a PM as well. Also, when I look in Rock Auto this is what I see for Applications, is this something to be concerned about since mines a '66? |
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KermitDRambler
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They didn't list the Classic but Marlins and Ambassadors use the same brakes as your car so the parts from those will fit.
Matt
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trewyn15
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Excellent, thanks! I think I'll order those and some new pads and just do it right the first time around. Will I need shims as well?
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