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    Posted: Jul/24/2018 at 1:58pm
1964 rambler 440 with l6. will not go in reveres or park. When you try to put it in reverse or park its try to go in reveres an park at the same time. I dropped the pan everything i can see looks fine. Anyone every run in to this or know what the problem could be? The trans is the flash-o- matic
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The first thing I would do is make sure the shift linkage is working properly with no slop or missing bushings.
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I unhooked the linkage an shifted the trans by hand. It did the samething



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote farna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/26/2018 at 7:58pm
Then you probably have a valve body problem. Could be as simple as a sticking valve, but then again the VB could be worn out. Passages and valves do wear. At this point I'd drop the pan and remove the valve body, then thoroughly clean it or take it to a trans shop and have them do it. It's not hard once it's out. I'd get a shop manual first though.
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That was my next move. I do have a
old hard back shop manual with that
trans in. I will post what I find
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Do you mean that the shift lever goes all the way to park before it tries to go into reverse. That does seem strange. Does first gear work OK? I think it shares the servo with reverse. I took one apart where the servo 'hat' had actually flipped over sideways. Servo adjustment as I recall with the pan off is 1/4" spacer and tighten to 9 in. lbs., then tighten the lock nut. The other one outside upper right is 9 ft. lbs., loosen 3/4 turn and tighten lock nut. The valve body has lots of pieces in it so be prepared with a clean table to lay everything out and a diagram to guide you in getting it back together.   
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1st 2nd 3rd an neutral all work fine. When you go to reverse park tries to engage as well. It will not go past reverse with the motor running. when you shut the motor off it will go in park  start it back up an it tries to go in reverse by its self. i will try the servos ( air check ) then pull the valve body.
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The TSM has some diagnostic tips in the transmission section.. I think that problem is mentioned. Joe
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Originally posted by pacerman pacerman wrote:

The TSM has some diagnostic tips in the transmission section.. I think that problem is mentioned. Joe
I looked in my manual it does not say any think about my prob.Mine is a real shop manual not one of the cheap paper back. Heck that might be why its not in there. lol LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pacerman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jul/27/2018 at 10:18pm
Ok, I was mistaken about your particular problem being mentioned but it does mention locking up in reverse gear.   It sounds to me like you have a problem with the linkage adjustment.  Further, I think if you drop the pan you can actually see the parking pawl engage when you put it in park (of course the motor can't be running with the pan off).  I think there is a detent ball (or balls) in the shifting mechanism inside the tranny and you need to make sure it (or they) are in place and dropping into the pockets so that you can feel the shifter go into each gear position.  

So in short I would make sure the shift linkage is properly adjusted and if it is then drop the pan and inspect the operation of the shifting mechanism and parking pawl assembly.   Maybe do a band adjustment while your are at it.  Joe  


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