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    Posted: Apr/03/2015 at 11:43pm
One of my biggest and most time consuming project challenges has been fighting rust. Now that I'm gaining momentum on my Javelin and there's a possibility of a second project for my wife (non-AMC), I needed a faster way to kill rust and get things treated/painted and reassembled. There must be a couple hundred small parts to deal with. So... time for a real blast cabinet that doesn't kill the budget and take up a lot of space. After tons of reading and even borrowing Freecat's smaller HF cabinet, I decided to spring for the Northern Tools 30" model at about $229.





The second picture shows my front 10" drum inside for scale. I just got all the bits put together tonight and won't be able to test it out for a couple of days, but size-wise it looks like it's going to do what I need. I'll post more about it once I get to actually use it.

My small criticisms so far....
The legs are hollow. seems like you'll loose half a pound of media or more immediately as it fill the legs instead of the hopper underneath. You can see in the picture where I cut white foam blocks to block off the holes.

You start out with a bare box and a bunch of parts. It took several hours to put humpty dumpty together. latches, door, gloves, door seal foam, my foam blocks, grate, hopper hose, external air hoses (not included)...
I got this to help speed up my projects, but it turned out to be a project of it's own. I still need to work out lighting, and I already bought longer gloves separately.

Still I hope when all is done, I'll cut rust work down to a fraction of what it was taking me before



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What are you using for dust extraction?
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Originally posted by 74gremx 74gremx wrote:

What are you using for dust extraction?
And for media maybe glass bead?
What size is your compressor, cfm @90 psi? Also are you using a air drier?
Once in my new home and garage I will be looking for one too.
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Originally posted by 74gremx 74gremx wrote:

What are you using for dust extraction?

There's a small port in the side where I hook up my small filtered shop vac. 
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I have a floor model from TP Tools that I've had for years and it works great. My brother has a bench top unit like you bought because of space. Here's a few things that we've figured out over the years - use a Rigid shop vac with a HEPA filter for dust collection. They last compared to other brands and have a great warranty.  I use 2 types of media - crushed glass and aluminum oxide. Aluminum oxide is more expensive but has very little dust and lasts a long time. It cuts heavy rust very quick but is hard on nozzles. I prefer crushed glass over glass beads because it cuts better than beads so it takes less time and air to get the job done. Each media has it good and bad. Everybody I know with a cabinet doesn't use mixed media because it doesn't seem to work well.

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Originally posted by FuzzFace2 FuzzFace2 wrote:

 And for media maybe glass bead?
What size is your compressor, cfm @90 psi? Also are you using a air drier?

I've decided to use aluminum oxide in this cabinet. It's more expensive, but for dealing with the rusty chunks of metal I have it seems like the best choice and is supposed to last a loooong time. Not something you want to use on thinner sheet metal or body panels, but they won't fit in there anyway. :)

My larger compressor does about 13 CFM at 90. Though I've used my smaller 3.5 cfm compressor ok to do small parts like brackets and bolts, I don't know how that would work the the aluminum oxide media yet. Will try that out sometime. I use a basic inline air filter similar to this one. 
Seems to work fine for removing moisture. Without it the line clogs.
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Originally posted by Mopar_guy Mopar_guy wrote:

Rigid shop vac with a HEPA filter for dust collection. 

How long do those filters last? I'm thinking about updating my current ancient hepa vacuum.
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Originally posted by PlazinJavelin PlazinJavelin wrote:


Originally posted by 74gremx 74gremx wrote:

What are you using for dust extraction?


There's a small port in the side where I hook up my small filtered shop vac. 
I want to say during one of my Google searches on dust control someone made a water bath type filter using a 5 gal bucket and a shop vac. Think larger scale oil bath air filter used on cars/trucks of years past.
With the water bath you could collect the “dust” dry it out and reuse it if you wanted.
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/index.php?topic=65.0
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Thanks for that idea. I'm going to see about building that.
This cabinet deal has sure tuned in to it's own project. I hope I can get back to my car someday soon. :)
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My $.02 worth:

I have a small HF cabinet.  Practically useless without dust extraction, and even my shop vac isn't quite enough to be able to see what you're working on.  I plan on buying the HF extraction fan as soon as I get the chance, but for now I do most of my blasting outdoors with my HF pressurized tank. 

The most important thing I've found about blasting is to keep your air dry.  Campbell Hausfeld sells a small two-stage water trap/dryer at Tractor Supply for about $35.  One of the jars in that unit holds the little silica gel beads that change color when they get used up.  They can be heated in the oven to dry them out and reused, but it's a good idea to buy extra silica beads and have a stock on hand so you don't have to shut down and dry your beads out in the middle of blasting.  I bought a quart jar of the beads at NAPA, but you can probably find them cheaper on-line.

Best to have a compressor that will deliver at least 10 cfm at 90 psi, otherwise your compressor will be running all the time.  That heats the air, which in turn creates condensation, and moisture in the air line. A small compressor makes for a frustrating afternoon.
 
If you have a Tractor Supply nearby, they also sell sl-a-g (the site seems to think that's a bad word without the dash in there) media for about $8.00 a bag.  I find it works about as well as aluminum oxide at a much lower cost.  I switch back and forth between glass beads, baking soda and either aluminum oxide or sl*g. They each have their place.

If you reuse your media, sift it first or you'll get clogged nozzles.



Edited by CamJam - Apr/04/2015 at 3:22pm
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