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vinny
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Thanks for that.
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farna
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You run a V-8 gear on the HEI for the six cylinder. The NAPA part number for the gear is BK655-1284 (1985 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, 360). Any 79 or later V-8 distributor gear should work. Here is a good write-up: http://keith.cj8.tripod.com/hei_upgrade.htm
All the links on that page to other installations are old and broken. |
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Frank Swygert
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71hornet6
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Check out my Skip White HEI notes post
It takes some setting up with springs, vacuum limiter and replacement module for a good performance ignition for pretty cheap - but it's exactly as farna described - engineer yourself and save! It doesn't seem like much more work or money than getting all the parts for the TFI swap I love the simplicity of this fat cap HEI on my 258. Looks clean and mean One issue that was tricky is the mech advance is physically limited by the slots for the weights at 22 degrees If you want initial timing in the 10-15 range, with total timing 32-40, you might want 26 max mech which has to be accomplished by drilling the slots out 1.2 32nds of an inch, or about .3 per degree. I did 1/32" and got it up to 25 40 seems like a lot of timing for I+M but actually there's a sweet spot around 9.5 compression that benefits from that much. I think I have about that with the way the engine builder put on the 4.0 head. I did 2 different tests that suggested about 43 total timing before vac advance Once you max out mechanical and initial advance for your sweet spot, vac advance must be severely curtailed. There are a lot of articles about this for any performance engine with the HEI you want to get it down around 12. This means turning the screw in the can outwards 9 out of 10 turns, and using the Crane vac limiter in the 1st or 2nd most extreme position |
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mitchito
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Resurrecting an old post, but looking at the Skip White website, he has a disclaimer regarding the cam gears while CRT specifically says that theirs will not destroy cam gears. The CRT is however double the price of the Skip White and I have 4 cars to do so it's a considerable savings. Any advice?
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I burned through three ignition modules in three years in the unit I bought from Skip White. While they did replace the modules for free (lifetime warranty), it was a hassle getting them to respond to me (the last time) and ultimately not worth the downtime IMHO.
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mitchito
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So I'm wondering if a GM module from any gm car from the 70s and 80s will work in the Chinese distributor. They are selling for $55 or so shipped. Almost worth carrying a spare.
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farna
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A "real" GM module will work. I seem to recall there being two types with different connectors... a four and a five pin?? Can't recall details now, but I'm sure someone with more GM HEI knowledge will chime in.
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Frank Swygert
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vinny
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I had someone ask if I had a spare distributor for an I6 and he was quite happy of learning that he could use a GM HEI. I wasn't sure on what to advise on the gear, if he could use the gear from the old 6 cyl. distributor or if he needed one from the V-8. Anybody got a Chrysler P/N for the gear?
I had a 79 SBC that I cooked the module on. It was a 4 pin as I recall.
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farna
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Needs a late model AMC V-8 drive gear.
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mitchito
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interestingly, the ignition module is the same as the original Petronix one found on AMC cars according to the parts places
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