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reusing old hubs -- more than once? |
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tomj
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Posted: Aug/23/2019 at 9:20pm |
my 68 American (AMC15) had bad axle bearings, i was forced to change them when i ran out of radio volume to drown out the noise. should i put in a louder radio? (kidding. i can't find a radio i can afford.) the axles had been out and bearings changed at least once (i have a receipt for the work). all parts in good condition, but the competent shop i use almost couldn't get them off -- took two days, soaking in WD40 or something, heat, etc, and slightly compressed the threads. some residue that looked like someone had put Loctite on the cut splines... they've done this for me before, and are very good with axles (they have someone who can weld *axles*, done 20 of them they claim... nice old-fashioned shop). so, opinions on how many times hubs/axles can be re-used? it's not like i have much choice. it's a 199ci, a T96 and 3.08 axle. not likely to do wheel stands. still... any hints on assembly tricks, beyond spotlessly clean, properly torqued and depth checked, etc? i'm fairly certain this will be only the second time these axles and hubs will be reused, not more, but certainly not less. |
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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6768rogues
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The Rambler I had in school had the hubs off and on at least a dozen times. And being a school kid, I really punished that car. There was never an issue with it and I didn’t own a torque wrench. If they are put back as they came off and properly tightened, I doubt you will have a problem, especially with a small engine.
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tomj
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OK thanks. yeah, me too, when i was 19... my practices were not so... careful, let's say :-) upon close inspection everything's fine, not stripped, no sign of abuse or distortion, nicks, etc. the nuts are stiffer on the threads than i like. i think the end of the axle got squashed a bit, the cotter pin hole collapsed a bit, i had to run a 1/8" drill bit through it. i had to work the nut back and forth a number of times, i hate to do that, but no real choice. produced some metallic grey oil, not slivers, and the threads are smooth not rough. but it's what i got to work with. |
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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mixed up
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hubs are fine as long as your not putting slick or big tires to the ground
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tomj
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lol, if i did, then the T96 would probably break before the hubs spun. i guess i'm safe :-) |
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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farna
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I'd think you are safe too. Probably would have been better to run a die over those threads to clean them up, but what you did works. If you're concerned about the holding power of the threads a little loc-tite there wouldn't hurt, but I don't know that I'd put it on the hub itself. Blue loc-tite should be ok though. Bet someone put "red" on the hub...
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tomj
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i didn't have a die that size. it was... tight, but only so much. almost not quite on and off by finger, but smooth. hub inside and axle splines spotless and grease free. thin almost dry oil on taper/woodruff key portion (keep out moisture). buffed the hub, washer, nut contact surfaces and threads, assembled with engine assembly lube. i torqued it with my patented method -- 18" breaker bar (1.5 feet) times my body weight (150 lb) equals 225 ft/lb or so, plus a bump. took nut off -- 1/8 turn then off by finger. measured depth; TSM says 3/16" (6/32"), i got 7/32". nut back on, same torque, then one more nut flat to the cotter pin hole. wheels haven't fallen off yet. i'm not worried about the threads. there's not a lot of splines in there, aen they're shallow. i assume AMC knew what they were doing (i know the V8 crowd thinks otherwise :-) i hope i was sufficiently paranoid. everything was spotlessly clean and inspected. no signs of widened spline-cuts or anything. (it looks like there might have been loctite on the load-bearing splines. been driving it, seems all's well.) |
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1960 Rambler Super two-door wagon, OHV auto
1961 Roadster American, 195.6 OHV, T5 http://www.ramblerLore.com |
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